
He proceeds to break into the home presumably to fuck someone up. Multiple cars in the driveway and dad likely yelling at him from the other side of the door. Completely justified. Thoughts?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 264 | September 2, 2022 10:35 PM |
A 22-year-old man was shot and killed after smashing through the front door of an Ohio home, while the homeowner stood armed on the other side, authorities told news outlets.
In a 911 call to the Shelby County Sheriff’s Office around 11 a.m. on Sunday, July 31, a woman said her ex-boyfriend tried to break into her home in Sidney, TV station WDTN reported.
The woman’s ex, James Douglas Rayl, started banging on the door of the home, and her father armed himself with a gun and ordered Rayl to go away, she told the sheriff’s office, the station reported.
Video taken by a doorbell camera captured Rayl pounding away at the door, investigators told WKEF.
Despite a warning from the woman’s father, Rayl started ramming the door with his shoulder, eventually busting it open and going inside, the outlet reported.
The father fired three shots and Rayl backed out of the house, collapsing close to the garage, according to the station.
He was pronounced dead at the scene, the sheriff’s office told WHIO.
An investigation is underway, and the case will be brought before a grand jury, the station reported
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 28, 2022 7:05 AM |
What a stupid way to go out; bleeding to death on someone else's property. He knew the father was on the other side of the door -- and it's Ohio so everyone has a gun -- and he knocks the door down anyway?! He should have just jumped off a bridge.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 28, 2022 7:07 AM |
I gather they called the Sheriff after the ex was shot dead? Urgh, this is not OK, none of this saga is remotely sane. The ex looks ill, the father is trigger-happy and America proves - yet again! - that it has a serious gun problem.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 28, 2022 7:09 AM |
^^^ Hunty, I am an uber-liberal California fruit loop (and gun owner) but if a crazy, angry ex crosses the threshold to my home after I said "go away" he's going away in a body bag.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 28, 2022 7:12 AM |
OP, who knows what the ex boyfriend was capable of after he broke into the house. This is self defense.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 28, 2022 7:15 AM |
Well, R4, it's the American way, I guess. I'll never understand it, but I concede that I've not grown-up in a country with guns. This would've been handled very differently outside the U.S.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 28, 2022 7:18 AM |
Depends how long it takes police to respond, R7. What if this happened in Europe, the father of the ex girlfriend was unarmed and the ex boyfriend had already broken into the house before police arrived?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 28, 2022 7:23 AM |
No charges for the father, he probably saved his daughter's life by taking him down for good and nor just sending him away.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 9 | August 28, 2022 7:26 AM |
Where exactly outside the US, R7?
A person can break into your house and attack you with intent to murder in Canada, and you will STILL be charged for that full stop if you end up hurting or killing them. It's happened, many times.
This is one aspect of the law that the Yanks have gotten right. This is the only legitimate impetus for gun ownership, unless you're a hunter.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 28, 2022 7:31 AM |
This is so cut-and-dried that it looks like an NRA false flag. (I don’t actually think it is.)
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 28, 2022 7:44 AM |
Anyone smashing through somebody else's door is begging for quick death.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 28, 2022 7:46 AM |
That doesn't sound right, R10. If someone is attacking you in your house and you kill them in self defense, I really doubt you will be punished. Maybe if you could have easily escaped and avoided confrontation.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 28, 2022 7:51 AM |
[quote] A person can break into your house and attack you with intent to murder in Canada, and you will STILL be charged for that full stop if you end up hurting or killing them. It's happened, many times.
How can this be true?! Does this only refer to use of an illegal firearm? What if you hit the attacker/intruder with a frying pan and they fell and broke their neck?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 28, 2022 7:54 AM |
I’m vaguely reminded of the poor Japanese exchange student in Louisiana (I think) who knocked on the wrong house on halloween and got shot and killed.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 28, 2022 8:10 AM |
Welcome to Ohio!
Please make note of the people who represent it.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 28, 2022 8:17 AM |
This is a little different, R17. The intruder probably meant to do harm. I doubt he was smashing the door down just so he could have a talk with his ex girlfriend.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 28, 2022 9:01 AM |
I'm sure she was leading him on and fucking with his head, then she got her dumb redneck dad involved for more drama. Women manipulating two men into killing each other for their own entertainment, tale as old as time.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 29, 2022 11:30 PM |
Leaving abusive relationships is always a fraught time. Dangerous for the person leaving and dangerous when police get involved. This is honestly the best case scenario and the father did the right thing. No jury would convict.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 29, 2022 11:37 PM |
Justifiable homicide.
He not only saved his daughter from being beaten up for killed, he saved every woman that asshole would ever have been involved with.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 29, 2022 11:38 PM |
"A person can break into your house and attack you with intent to murder in Canada, and you will STILL be charged for that full stop if you end up hurting or killing them. It's happened, many times."
So people in Canada can't defend themselves from home invasions, rapists, or psycho exes with murder on their minds?
Seriously, clarify this. Are you talking about defending yourself with illegal guns, or is it illegal to defend yourself with kitchen knives or a cricket bat?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 29, 2022 11:41 PM |
r20 And she's probably thrilled now that she has a story she gets to tell everyone about what a victim she is!
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 29, 2022 11:43 PM |
Canada is full of dirty lezzies
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 29, 2022 11:43 PM |
R27 sweetie, why are you responding to your own posts?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 29, 2022 11:45 PM |
Shelby County is in the heart of Trump country, so the behavior of everyone involved is not unusual.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 29, 2022 11:46 PM |
Once again, the audio on doorbell cameras is so clear you can hear him moaning while he dies (same with the Goys of Pennsylvania). It's absolutely bone chilling.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 29, 2022 11:53 PM |
That was wild. Even in normal speed, it seem to be in slo-mo.
The way he just staggered away and died on the driveway was not nearly as horrifying as I would have thought.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 30, 2022 12:00 AM |
r24 careful now, you can't call them out on here... so many end up suspended for days.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 30, 2022 12:11 AM |
I meant I didn’t know World Star had this kind of content.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 30, 2022 12:12 AM |
Good grief. The idiot neighbors start coming over at 5:40. One standing over the kid saying, “he’s still breathing, buy barely”. Then he goes into his car. “Ain’t nobody in it”
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 35 | August 30, 2022 12:16 AM |
[quote] the audio on doorbell cameras is so clear you can hear him moaning while he dies
I thought I heard him say " Maybe I should have just texted her"
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 30, 2022 12:36 AM |
" #justiceforjames" ?? What part of the insane dude trying to break down the door, even after being warned they missed?
My guess is this hashtag includes a GoFundMe?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 30, 2022 2:59 AM |
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" is one of the most RETARDED phrases in use on the internet and DL in particular.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 30, 2022 3:00 AM |
[quote] "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" is one of the most RETARDED phrases
It's too true to be retarded
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 39 | August 30, 2022 3:16 AM |
R37 yes there is a GoFundme. Ex boyfriends family is all over social media calling it murder and have harassed the family who shot the ex bf. Ex boyfriends family are imbeciles and I believe they have taken down the YouTube video linked up thread as most comments were critical of the stalker ex boyfriend.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 30, 2022 3:35 AM |
And did I DO it, or did I NOT do it, and who could have DONE it!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 30, 2022 3:39 AM |
Dear god. Read the comments on OP's link.
They're both hilarious and frightening at the same time.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 30, 2022 3:42 AM |
R26 - in Canada, you can use equal force. You don’t have to just sit there and take it. If you shoot someone, though, that’d probably get treated a bit differently than if you beat them with a bat. I have a bat under my bed. If anyone ever broke in, I’d use it on them and tell the cops it’s the intruder’s bat. Let them prove it’s not.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 30, 2022 3:48 AM |
The home owners thought the intruder had a gun R43. So they used equal force. Guess forcing your way into someone's home is a bad idea.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 30, 2022 3:50 AM |
[quote] Diablo Muskrat [quote] see this is where i actually feel bad for the guy - he was hurting and didnt know to express it - this new generation is lost
[quote] Wesley [quote] Yea he was about to express his love by strangling her to death
I love this reply under the story at OP's link. These young white dudes are on a killing spree -- they are either domestic terrorists or murdering their mouthy ex-girlfriends.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 30, 2022 4:04 AM |
Amazingly no CVS stores have been looted in memory of the dead fool
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 30, 2022 4:10 AM |
The saying makes perfect sense, R38. Thanks for trolling.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 30, 2022 4:29 AM |
“Thanks for trolling with a brotha!”
“Thanks for lettin a brotha troll!”
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 30, 2022 4:43 AM |
I agree, r38.
Fraus love it and are the only ones who use it.
They always snitchin on theyselves!
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 30, 2022 4:44 AM |
New York Post gets poetic with the story.
Earlier this month, a Shelby County grand jury voted 8-1 against indicting Duckro on charges related to Rayl’s killing, citing the state’s “Stand Your Ground” law, which says that a homeowner does not have a legal duty to retreat from their home before firing a gun.
𝑻𝒉𝒆 22-𝒚𝒆𝒂𝒓-𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒎𝒂𝒌𝒆𝒔 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒂𝒚 𝒅𝒐𝒘𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒄𝒉 𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒑𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒘𝒂𝒍𝒌𝒔 𝒂 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒕 𝒅𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒆 𝒄𝒐𝒍𝒍𝒂𝒑𝒔𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒎𝒊𝒅𝒅𝒍𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒂 𝒔𝒖𝒏-𝒅𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒑𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒘𝒂𝒚.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 30, 2022 4:52 AM |
I need a *really* sun-dappled pathway for my death scene.
BRIGHTER!!!
DAZZLE ME!!!
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 30, 2022 4:54 AM |
US had way to relaxed laws for people to legally kill others. There was no evidence that this guy had a gun so the retaliation is disproportionate. Three shots? Why not just one? Trigger happy dad that felt a rush of adrenaline and decided to be a big man, and no trial? Wtf is with this country. No other country in the western world would you have this happen. The problem with all of these instances is that there is a credible risk that the other person had a gun, therefore you kill someone for, oh I don’t know bumping into you accidentally, and all of a sudden you have a legitimate excuse and the cops or courts don’t even bother investigating. And all these loser commenters sit around saying “wow good for him” 🤡🤡🤡
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 30, 2022 5:07 AM |
The nation is united on this question
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 54 | August 30, 2022 5:15 AM |
R53 what's this strawman argument you're masturbating to? He didn't accidentally do anything, he purposefully and willfully tried to body check his way into someone else's home. I'm sure you'll try to argue it was for altruistic purposes but to most intelligent and rational people, this guy was there to do harm. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 30, 2022 5:44 AM |
He should have known there was an expectatia of retaliatia.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 30, 2022 5:46 AM |
Kid didn't make a sound before or after being shot...Wonder what drugs he was on
by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 30, 2022 5:46 AM |
Poorly thought out actia that lead to crematia.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 30, 2022 5:48 AM |
[quote] he purposefully and willfully tried to body check his way into someone else's home.
R55 yea and in no reasonable country would that equal a death sentence, with no full criminal investigation or trial. You’ve all been totally gaslit into thinking that this is a proportional outcome, and it’s not.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 30, 2022 5:57 AM |
R59 if you want to play a guessing game with a dangerous individual and hope you can fight them off with your body and no deadly weapon, then have it.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 30, 2022 6:10 AM |
Am I supposed to feel bad for any of these people?
I don't.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 30, 2022 6:26 AM |
I think I heard the guy say, "call Brian Baranski"
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 30, 2022 6:43 AM |
Having been stalked by an ex at around the same age as the shooter’s daughter I can’t begin to explain the freaking constant fear, dread, and feeling of being on edge - for me and my family too. There’s not a lot of recourse unless they directly threaten your life, and trust me, there is a lot of terrorizing that can go one without that happening.
I’d love to know more about this ex boyfriend’s story. Was his behaviour suddenly strange and dangerous? Or, was he harassing the daughter for a long period? I know they said he left a message or text or whatever the night before but that doesn’t mean it was the only one she got after no contact since they broke up a year and a half ago. Was it a threatening message?
They were clearly rattled by the guy and I think also it could have had to do with some lead up bad behaviour before the final straw of him trying to barrel his way into a their house ignoring their pleas and warnings to gtfo. The guy was busting through the front door of a home and was strangely expressionless the entire time. I’m gonna guess screw loose stalker and/or maybe, based on his age, a recent onset of schizophrenia, untreated.
Notice the mom said he was following them back to their home too.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 30, 2022 7:57 AM |
[quote]R55 yea and in no reasonable country would that equal a death sentence, with no full criminal investigation or trial. You’ve all been totally gaslit into thinking that this is a proportional outcome, and it’s not.
Yes, R55. He was trying to break into the house because he wanted to have a calm discussion with his ex-girlfriend. Or maybe he just wanted to sit down, have a beer and watch some TV 🙄.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 30, 2022 8:14 AM |
[quote]Hunty, I am an uber-liberal California fruit loop (and gun owner) but if a crazy, angry ex crosses the threshold to my home after I said "go away" he's going away in a body bag.
Opposite coast, but otherwise I'm exactly the same, R4.
I have to believe that anyone in this thread who watched that video who says otherwise is trolling.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 30, 2022 8:24 AM |
r39 Darwinism or Darwin Award fits better; it triggers the religious and sounds less like somebody's alcoholic rightwing stepfather while also educating the increasingly ignorant younger generations...
though this one would technically violate its rules.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 67 | August 30, 2022 8:46 AM |
💯 % the guy had a psychotic break and was going to do some serious harm. I don’t blame the father. I do wonder though…did he need to fire three shots? You’d think one would scare anyone off. Maybe it was panic though.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 30, 2022 8:59 AM |
[quote] strangely expressionless
Oh well in that case he definitely deserved to be shot dead.
[quote] 💯 % the guy had a psychotic break
You really just get on here and act like your random inexpert guesswork is fact don’t you.
[quote] He was trying to break into the house because he wanted to have a calm discussion with his ex-girlfriend.
R65 I didn’t say that. He was being aggressive - but not to the point that warrants his being killed. This is what I’m talking about, the US is the only country in the western world where murdering someone (a person known to you) that’s trying to break into your house is accepted as totally rational and proportional response. And its because of the gun culture here. You’re all fucking nuts.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 30, 2022 9:07 AM |
[quote]This is what I’m talking about, the US is the only country in the western world where murdering someone (a person known to you) that’s trying to break into your house is accepted as totally rational and proportional response.
Except he wasn't trying to break into the house. He broke into the house.
How would you have dealt with the situation?
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 30, 2022 9:14 AM |
R70 I wouldn’t have killed him how’s that?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 30, 2022 9:15 AM |
Sure, R69. I don't know the age of the father but the 22 year old was probably physically more than a match for both the dad and the ex-girlfriend. If the dad didn't have a gun, the 22 year old might have severely injured or killed both of them. He was trying to break into a house where he clearly was not wanted. For just how long do you keep giving the 22 year old the benefit of the doubt? What kind of idealistic world do you live in, 69?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 30, 2022 9:15 AM |
I agree. Someone breaking down a door isn't a threat to your life. You can shoot someone who is charging at you with a knife not charging at your door with their shoulder. Society is too full of trigger-happy wimps.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 30, 2022 9:17 AM |
[quote] ....the US is the only country in the western world where murdering someone (a person known to you) that’s trying to break into your house....
R69, when you say "known to you", you mean "known stalker", right?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 30, 2022 9:19 AM |
R69, answer R70's question.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 30, 2022 9:20 AM |
R72 you’ve used ‘might’ and ‘trying’ in your comment, this guy had hardly made any decisive move that was putting them in direct danger. You’re really think it’s ok to kill somebody because they ‘might’ hurt you? What kinda precedence does this set? Where do you draw the line?
What a bunch of bloodthirsty losers lol.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 30, 2022 9:21 AM |
[quote[[R70] I wouldn’t have killed him how’s that?
It's insufficient as an answer, r72 (and r73, And thanks, r75).
What would you have done. r76?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 30, 2022 9:22 AM |
Yes, R73. You let them break into your house and then calmly ask them what they want. What could go wrong?
by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 30, 2022 9:23 AM |
i'd have bent over and let him bang on me for a while before shooting him the face with my pinga
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 30, 2022 9:24 AM |
[quote][R70] I wouldn’t have killed him how’s that?
It's insufficient as an answer, [R72] (and [R73], And thanks, [R75]).
What would you have done. [R76]?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 30, 2022 9:24 AM |
I'm pretty sure you're trolling, R76.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 30, 2022 9:24 AM |
It's early and I can't be bothered to read the story.
Was there a history of domestic violence?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 30, 2022 9:24 AM |
Watch the video in OP's link, R82. Bitch had it coming.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 30, 2022 9:26 AM |
^^^go to bed and read it tomorrow, r82.
What are we, your secretary?
by Anonymous | reply 84 | August 30, 2022 9:27 AM |
How about a few warning shots or something to de-escalated before killing?
by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 30, 2022 9:44 AM |
Did he end up having a gun?
by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 30, 2022 9:45 AM |
Whatever, R69. The dad told him to leave the property and that he was armed. He was warned.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 30, 2022 9:46 AM |
The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists. That is why they invented Hell.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 30, 2022 9:49 AM |
Warning shots are for losers like Rose.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 30, 2022 9:50 AM |
He violently entered the home. He broke down a door. He wasn't there to have a reasonable discussion with a girlfriend who told him a long time ago she wanted nothing to do with him with very good reason obviously. Who are the brain damaged fucking assholes who thought that the guy should fight him with a knife or baseball bat that the father overreacted? Stupid stupid people. This kid was stewing for a very very long time wanting revenge.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | August 30, 2022 9:56 AM |
[quote]Who are the brain damaged fucking assholes who thought that the guy should fight him with a knife or baseball bat that the father overreacted? Stupid stupid people.
Mostly bleeding heart liberals from Europe.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | August 30, 2022 9:58 AM |
He was a young’n with a wild boner
by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 30, 2022 9:59 AM |
r93 He doesn't look very violent. He doesn't even look angry in the video. I doubt he had any plans other than to wiggle to doorknob and cry that she should take him back.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | August 30, 2022 10:05 AM |
Omg. The trolls are out in full force on this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | August 30, 2022 10:08 AM |
He just wanted to borrow some sugar.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | August 30, 2022 10:10 AM |
Yes he wanted to express to the father his love for the daughter and get on his knees and ask for her hand in marriage.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | August 30, 2022 10:10 AM |
The people who think he didn't deserve to die despite destroying property to illegally enter a home to terrorize a former girlfriend's family genuinely believe he was there to sell magazine subscriptions
by Anonymous | reply 100 | August 30, 2022 10:16 AM |
How about just let him in?
by Anonymous | reply 101 | August 30, 2022 10:29 AM |
All I'm saying is the percentage of people who have had a messy breakup at some point their lives is probably over 50%. The percentage of people who murder their exes is probably less than .01%. The people judging him should throw less stones and dumb fat redneck boomers shouldn't be able to shoot anyone they want.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | August 30, 2022 10:30 AM |
If you reversed the genders and the dad killed a girlfriend banging on her ex-boyfriend's front door, I'd love to watch you all still claiming the dad was a hero. Something tells me that thread will be empty.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | August 30, 2022 10:50 AM |
Woman raised by violent man grows up, dates another violent man.
Film at 11.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | August 30, 2022 10:52 AM |
The relationship ended a year and a half ago. We don't know what kind of harassment the girl was going through in that time. I doubt after all that time he just showed up to terrorize the family out of the blue. Now if he were just throwing pebbles at her window or calling out her name outside the house you would have a point but you don't you're simply being righteous because face facts you're mighty dim. And R103 is really a prize. He wasn't banging on the door. He was breaking it open and succeeded. Which in your limited intelligence seems to be the same thing. But maybe you didn't watch the video or read anything about it and think he was just at the front door singing Silly Love Songs and the father through the door blew him away. Well that's not what happened. I love the knife suggestion. That was brilliant. Blood and knife wounds everywhere killing god knows who.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | August 30, 2022 11:08 AM |
scary situation and I understand the father wanting to protect his family but why not call the cops when they saw the ex bf approaching? The mother said she saw him following her home in his car. He didn't break in right away. Maybe there would have been a different outcome if the cops could have been there. I also agree with those wondering why he fired 3 shots. The bf turned around immediately after getting shot the first time.
the obituary for the ex-bf is bizarre btw.
so glad I don't live in Ohio. Seems like a fucked up place all around
by Anonymous | reply 107 | August 30, 2022 11:25 AM |
[quote] murdering someone (a person known to you) that’s trying to break into your house is accepted as totally rational and proportional response
OK I'll play, for all the good it will do.
1) -- 𝑀𝑢𝑟𝑑𝑒𝑟 is an unlawful killing. The prosecutor and the Grand Jury of citizens have reviewed the matter and ruled this killing was lawful, so not a murder.
2) Self defense is quite rational. It is one of the primary survival motivations of any sentient creature.
3) A long term stalker had for months been endangering the girl and her family with his refused advances. Proportionality was satisfied by the father retreating into his home and locking out the psycho from entry. Staying on his side of the door nutcase would have been able to walk away. Despite this the continued threat from the man magnified by repeated assaults on the door to force entry satisfied the final requirement, the imminence of the threat. He was there, he was angry, and he was inside the doorway. This allowed the Grand Jury and Prosecutor in 1) to decided as they did.
My only criticism is I would have allowed him to get a little further past the door before stitching him up.
But all's well that ends well.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 108 | August 30, 2022 11:25 AM |
They heard him trying to open the door and the father did nothing. They heard him banging on the door and the father did nothing but I believe you can hear some crying out from inside the house.. It wasn't until the door was broken open that the shooting and the screaming start. I believe the father had had enough and wanted this guy permanently out of his daughter's life forever. No restraining order, no jail time with them worrying what is the guy going to do after he gets out of prison. Who knows maybe they did notify authorities and they did nothing. It happens. People still kill when they have restraining orders against them.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | August 30, 2022 11:55 AM |
As abusers/stalkers love to say: "A restraining order is just a piece of paper!"
A year and a half is a long time for that girl and her family to be terrorized by that little shit. Too long. Definitely long enough for him to have gotten the message to "Fuck off!" and "Move along.". But he chose to keep stalking and harassing and he escalated it. The dad did not go to his house with a gun and beat down his door, even after the 18 months of stalking and harassment.
Kid was looking for it and found it.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | August 30, 2022 12:09 PM |
The obit for the kid mentions his paw paw and maw maw. Crazy.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | August 30, 2022 12:18 PM |
Was she like, literally, to die for?
by Anonymous | reply 112 | August 30, 2022 12:30 PM |
It's a very grim video to watch. A young man so fucked up and destroying his life and harassing others for so long. I guess he was a lost cause.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | August 30, 2022 12:32 PM |
[quote]this is not OK,
Oh, fuck off and take this shit back to Twitter.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | August 30, 2022 12:47 PM |
[quote]How about a few warning shots or something to de-escalated before killing?
He did fire a warning shot. That warning shot hit the kid. Then he warned him he would be shot again.
How the fuck is firing a gun outside into the ether where it could kill anyone else EXCEPT for your intended target a way of de-escalating?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | August 30, 2022 12:49 PM |
Why are your Christians so unlike your Christ?
by Anonymous | reply 116 | August 30, 2022 12:55 PM |
Where was the guy's "Christ-like" actions, when he was stalking, harassing, breaking, entering, and threatening?
Perhaps he ought to have tried some B&E in the local Baptist church, instead if he needed ministering.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | August 30, 2022 1:01 PM |
The homeowner was justified in shooting the intruder and only trolls would somehow find a way to turn this around to blame the the homeowner who is the victim here.
If you break into my house expect to suffer the consequences.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | August 30, 2022 1:06 PM |
This was completely justified. I havent had a stalker personally, but I had a lady boarding with me many years ago who was being stalked, and if I'd had access to a gun I would have done exactly the same thing under the circumstances
Until you have either been stalked or had someone close to you being stalked you do not understand. I'm frankly surprised the father only fired three shots actually
The video posted at R35 is originally from the family of the stalker, and it has been edited, probably to remove threats that he made to the family inside the house. At one point you can see an SUV tearing past on the road outside in the background - until it disappears half way past the house
by Anonymous | reply 119 | August 30, 2022 1:09 PM |
Pointless outrage thread.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | August 30, 2022 1:14 PM |
[quote]the US is the only country in the western world where murdering someone (a person known to you) that’s trying to break into your house is accepted as totally rational and proportional response.
Because the US is the only country in the western world where the person breaking into your house is just as likely to have a gun as not.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | August 30, 2022 1:19 PM |
OK
the US is the only country in the western world where murdering someone (a person known to you) that’s trying to break into your house is accepted as totally rational and proportional response.
Are you not a native english speaker? Though you are fluent you're not getting certain things. He was not murdered he was killed. And he wasn't simply trying to break into the house he DID break into the house. The father did not shoot until he broke through the door. She had ended the relationship a year and a half ago and probably she was still going through the fear and emotional turmoil of him stalking her. So tell me exactly what are you not understanding? Because what you said is full of lies.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | August 30, 2022 1:52 PM |
"I gather they called the Sheriff after the ex was shot dead? Urgh, this is not OK, none of this saga is remotely sane. The ex looks ill, the father is trigger-happy and America proves - yet again! - that it has a serious gun problem." Wait for the police to save you?! On THIS country?! Are you high?
by Anonymous | reply 123 | August 30, 2022 1:58 PM |
[quote] this is not OK
Every time someone says that, an innocent child dies.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | August 30, 2022 2:07 PM |
He's kinda cute, so I'm on his side.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | August 30, 2022 2:11 PM |
Which brah had the heavy equipment that damaged her young vagine?
by Anonymous | reply 127 | August 30, 2022 2:14 PM |
She was egging him on with dirty textses
by Anonymous | reply 128 | August 30, 2022 2:18 PM |
[quote] If you break into my house expect to suffer the consequences.
Yeah, but what if I broke in and presented hole? Then what?
by Anonymous | reply 129 | August 30, 2022 2:20 PM |
Imagine getting shot right in the butthole.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | August 30, 2022 2:22 PM |
[quote] He's kinda cute, so I'm on his side.
Yikes! Make an appointment—TODAY—to get your prescription checked.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | August 30, 2022 2:24 PM |
Oh excuse my post at R127. I meant to type a hateful filthy post on the football gang rape thread.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | August 30, 2022 2:26 PM |
I said what I said, bitch @ r132.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | August 30, 2022 2:31 PM |
Hey, all I’m saying is you can have him. Though you may not want him now.
He looks a bit…different.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | August 30, 2022 2:33 PM |
[quote] If you reversed the genders and the dad killed a girlfriend banging on her ex-boyfriend's front door, I'd love to watch you all still claiming the dad was a hero. Something tells me that thread will be empty.
Can you think of one case when a woman has killed an ex boyfriend or ex-husband? I can't think of even one.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | August 30, 2022 2:52 PM |
Real women cannot commit murder. All "female" killers are really men.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | August 30, 2022 2:58 PM |
Ok, fine, r138. There's one. But the fact that she's so infamous kind of proves my point. The reverse is so numerous it's not even notable.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | August 30, 2022 3:17 PM |
I don't disagree that it's much less common, r139, but let's not pretend it never happens
Here's another recent-ish story (that thankfully didn't end in death):
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 140 | August 30, 2022 3:19 PM |
For anyone saying this doesn’t happen in other countries, well…
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 141 | August 30, 2022 3:21 PM |
[quote]it's the American way, I guess. I'll never understand it, but I concede that I've not grown-up in a country with guns. This would've been handled very differently outside the U.S.
Exactly, probably because the lives of women and girls are not valued in your shit hole country.....so they get knifed or strangled to death by crazed, entitled, violent men.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | August 30, 2022 4:01 PM |
[quote]As abusers/stalkers love to say: "A restraining order is just a piece of paper!"
They are a joke. If a violent ex hellbent on revenge wants you dead.....you will be. Sooner or later it will happen. Unless you take matters into your own hands. Bravo to this girl's dad. Waiting for (maybe even goading?) him to break in was brilliant. Plausible deniablility.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | August 30, 2022 4:06 PM |
I have r65 blocked for being an argumentative sneering troll asshole from other threads. I didn’t see his idiotic interpretation of one of my posts. Never did I say he deserved it due to a psychotic break. But like the thread title says. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Especially when in the USA people have the right to protect themselves in their own homes.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | August 30, 2022 4:08 PM |
"The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists. That is why they invented Hell."
Was not the stalking and terrorizing of this young woman and her family the "infliction of cruelty with a good conscience", R90? You can bet that Rayl did not think of himself as an abusive criminal, though he clearly was. But to you, women are objects, things to be fought over, subhumans who "make trouble" for heroes on their journeys.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | August 30, 2022 4:08 PM |
[quote]yea and in no reasonable country would that equal a death sentence, with no full criminal investigation or trial.
You know, if all we had was a description of events, I might go along with it.
However, the video footages shows that he broke into the house after mulitple warnings to leave. He didn't just walk up and turn the doorknob. It also took a concerted effort to break through the door, so he was clearly motivated to get in.
The people on the other side of the door had no idea whether he had a weapon, even if they were watching the door cam.
Did he "deserve" to die - no. Was getting killed a very real outcome to his choice to break into someone else's house after multiple warnings to leave - yes.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | August 30, 2022 4:13 PM |
The dead guy had the face, background, and history of a mass shooter. Maybe his mommy and daddy just hadn't bought him his AR-15, body armor, etc. yet.
That girl's dad may have saved more lives than just his child's and immediate family.
"...shooter had a record of domestic violence..."
"....shooter was known to law enforcement..."
"....red flags..."
by Anonymous | reply 148 | August 30, 2022 4:19 PM |
R136, it's rare, but it does happen.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 150 | August 30, 2022 4:31 PM |
Daddy was merely helping to reduce the world's overpopulation problem.
Thank you, good sir!
by Anonymous | reply 151 | August 30, 2022 4:33 PM |
This is from WOHIO.com:
Only new info I found so I am just pasting the interesting oart.
“In the 911 audio recording of the incident, also obtained by News Center 7 by way of an information request, a woman, who described Rayl as her ex-boyfriend, said, “He’s trying the door dad . . . dad . . dad. Is he trying to kill me?”
County sheriff’s investigators said it is at that moment, Rayl broke the front door and began to go inside. He’s hit immediately by three gunshots.
“In the same 911 call, the woman is heard to say, " Dad there’s nothing you could have done. You saved my life.”
by Anonymous | reply 152 | August 30, 2022 4:34 PM |
A parent protecting a loved one or child, even a grown one, is in a heightened state of defense. They are going to protect their loved one somehow, with a gun, a baseball bat, or poker. It's likely someone would have lost their life and if someone had to die, then the right one did.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | August 30, 2022 4:39 PM |
He was cute I would have sucked his dick.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | August 30, 2022 4:40 PM |
Since you don't seem picky R154, there's still time! Just grab a shovel and get to suckin'!
by Anonymous | reply 155 | August 30, 2022 4:43 PM |
After watching the video that kid does not get into the house, he does not break open the door but the father starts shooting. They had an opportunity to get out of the house and call the police, that was not justifiable homicide. That was at least 2nd degree murder.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | August 30, 2022 4:44 PM |
It just makes me so sad to see a young life snuffed out so quickly, most likely over nothing. The kid clearly had some screws loose or was on mind altering drugs. Why didn't someone get him the help he obviously needed?
That said, I totally understand the father's reasoning. You don't know what the person on the other side of the door has in his pockets. A gun, knife, or some other weapon he could whip out and use to harm or kill you.
And R156 what I saw in the video was the kid actually getting the door open and the gunshots stopping him before he got fully into the house.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | August 30, 2022 4:46 PM |
[quote]They had an opportunity to get out of the house and call the police, that was not justifiable homicide.
Uh, yes it was.
Read the Castle Doctrine. You are under absolutely no obligation to ever flee your own home. None.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | August 30, 2022 4:46 PM |
What is interesting here in the video he dies in a way that I have never seen except in old comedy sketches and cartoons.
When he falls you see his feet ankles and the bottom of his legs. You see that there is writhing with his feet moving about. But at the moment of his of his death his feet instantly splay. In old comedy sketches when people are shot they go through all these dramatic agonized movements but at the end at the moment of death they suddenly die instantly in a spasm. This is supposed to be funny and you never ever see it in any dramatic context. Yet here it happens and it's reality.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | August 30, 2022 4:58 PM |
I suppose 157 and that is what was written in the article but he was not using all that much force, the wood around that door must have been rotten or not locked. Have you tried to bust open a door? I takes a lot more than what he was doing.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | August 30, 2022 4:58 PM |
The video of his death brought to mind the New Jersey snow shoveling murder and suicide after the killer shot the husband and you heard his dying moans.
A terrible, yet fascinating, thing to witness, the seconds when the light goes out.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | August 30, 2022 5:04 PM |
Fire a warning shot in a suburban neighborhood? Obviously some people know absolutely nothing about guns.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | August 30, 2022 5:19 PM |
Not according to stand your ground laws in the USA r156. You do not have to back away from defending yourself if you are in your own home or car. The guy busting open the door was enough. And I’m sure the grand jury heard all about how he was terrorizing them before that. There’s a history here.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | August 30, 2022 5:26 PM |
I’m starting to think r156/7 is a troll. “Well he didn’t completely get inside the house though”. Or how about the defence of “the wood around the door must be rotted” 😂
by Anonymous | reply 164 | August 30, 2022 5:28 PM |
Nor157. I am not a psycho like you so I have not tried to bust through someone else’s locked door.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | August 30, 2022 5:29 PM |
He kind of resembled Michael Jackson's son, Prince. But Prince-- amazingly enough-- seems like a kind, decent young man, unlike this POS.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | August 30, 2022 5:32 PM |
[quote]That was at least 2nd degree murder.
The Selby County grand jury disagrees with you, R156.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | August 30, 2022 5:33 PM |
I am R157. What the fuck are you nitwits going on about? How the hell am I a troll for telling R156 I disagreed with his assessment?
God this place is going to hell with all the crazies around here.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | August 30, 2022 5:40 PM |
Your temper exemplifies the exact problem you are complaining about r157. You’re completely emotionally disregulated to lose your shit over being called a troll.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | August 30, 2022 5:45 PM |
Apologies to r157. It is r156 I was calling a troll the r156 was a typo.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | August 30, 2022 5:46 PM |
R257 was the typo! Ugh. Sorry
by Anonymous | reply 171 | August 30, 2022 5:46 PM |
Oh geez. Just disregard my shitty typing r157!
by Anonymous | reply 172 | August 30, 2022 5:47 PM |
[quote] All I'm saying is the percentage of people who have had a messy breakup at some point their lives is probably over 50%. The percentage of people who murder their exes is probably less than .01%. The people judging him should throw less stones and dumb fat redneck boomers shouldn't be able to shoot anyone they want.
What percentage of deranged young men kill their girlfriends or ex-girlfriends?
by Anonymous | reply 173 | August 30, 2022 5:48 PM |
I don't see what difference it would make what percentage of ex boyfriends kill their ex girlfriends. It's not a home owner's responsibility to play the what if? game when that ex boyfriend tries to barge into your home
by Anonymous | reply 174 | August 30, 2022 5:56 PM |
[quote] God this place is going to hell
But not in a handbasket?
Aw, C’MON!!
by Anonymous | reply 175 | August 30, 2022 6:04 PM |
[quote] Not according to stand your ground laws in the USA [R156]. You do not have to back away from defending yourself if you are in your own home or car. The guy busting open the door was enough. And I’m sure the grand jury heard all about how he was terrorizing them before that. There’s a history here.
It's not "stand your ground" law, it is based on the common law "Castle Doctrine" -- you can use reasonable force up to and including deadly force to protect your health and home from an intruder.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | August 30, 2022 6:05 PM |
[quote] Apologies to [R157]
Apology accepted.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | August 30, 2022 6:09 PM |
All that numbnuts had to do was...leave her alone.
And he would still be alive. Free to be with "Mawmaw" and "Pawpaw" and his three cars. He could be getting blowies from R154.
He had over 18 months to leave her and her family alone, but he didn't. He escalated it.
What is it that abusers always say about the victims? Oh, yeah! Sounds like he was "Asking for it "
by Anonymous | reply 178 | August 30, 2022 6:10 PM |
If the genders were reversed or different in whatever manner, I'd be just as supportive. Argue with whatever strawman you like, harassment is harassment and the family can't read minds to know the intention of this guy, but they can infer that he probably wasn't going to break in to leave a box of chocolate. And it was probably better for the case that the dad did it and actually killed the guy, the woman trying to do a "warning shot" could have led to greater legal drama.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 179 | August 30, 2022 6:15 PM |
Yep on Reddit people are saying you can get into more trouble for warning shots because it means you weren't in imminent danger. Never shoot something you don't intend to kill and you can only shoot if you fear for your life.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | August 30, 2022 6:19 PM |
I think there are way too many trolls on this thread acting faux outraged just to try and bash the US.
Owning guns is built into the American psyche. The earliest colonists had guns for defense against native tribes and wild animals. Their counterparts back in the old country were oftentimes not allowed weapons of this sort. That good old aristocracy didn't want any uprisings from local peasants. Guns allowed us to throw of the yoke of tyranny from a faraway monarch.
The redcoats basically didn't have a chance against the armed citizenry here. Every man, woman and child had a gun aimed at their British asses.
Whether you approve or disapprove it's part of the culture. Funnily enough every ex-pat I've met through work happy buys guns here and agrees with the Castle doctrine.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | August 30, 2022 6:28 PM |
From a legal perspective the dad probably would have had more of a legal fight on his hands if the “Stand your Ground” law hadn’t gone into effect a years or so before
by Anonymous | reply 183 | August 30, 2022 6:29 PM |
I like the way you phrase things, r182.
(Not snark, I really do!)
by Anonymous | reply 184 | August 30, 2022 6:29 PM |
I’m actually not American. We don’t have the right to bear arms like this. I support the father in this situation. Legally he was within his rights and protected his daughter.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | August 30, 2022 6:30 PM |
R183, again, look up the Castle Doctrine, which is law in every state of the United States, regardless of local or state “stand your ground” laws.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | August 30, 2022 6:30 PM |
No one is more dangerous than someone who believes they've been denied what is rightfully theirs.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | August 30, 2022 6:56 PM |
People who believe other HUMANS are in any way what are "rightfully theirs" are fucking disgusting.
That's some Confederacy bullshit. Or worse, since slave owners sold their slaves off. These shitbags think they own others for life.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | August 30, 2022 7:04 PM |
Why are we talking about slavery now
by Anonymous | reply 189 | August 30, 2022 7:14 PM |
No shit, r188, that's the point. Plenty of males believe women and children are their property including relatives, friends, and love interests.
see: stalkers, domestic abusers, males who murder their partners, honor killers, family annihilator, guys who threaten or joke about fucking someone's mom/sister/daughter...the list is endless because they see them all not as fully independent humans but extensions of themselves and other males.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | August 30, 2022 7:33 PM |
And they are not referred to as men in these instances because that term is reserved for those who are capable of seeing others as humans.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | August 30, 2022 7:38 PM |
[quote]Shelby County is in the heart of Trump country, so the behavior of everyone involved is not unusual.
Oh right.
Wealthy lefties have elaborate security systems and/or armed body guards...but only they can have the privilege of self defense?
Explain that one.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | August 30, 2022 7:40 PM |
I never understood how any liberal against gun control could defend that R193... Well, any liberal who has private security, I mean.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | August 30, 2022 8:12 PM |
She must have had some prime snatch!
by Anonymous | reply 195 | August 30, 2022 8:40 PM |
The dad probably had nasty violent sex with his wife that night. It's every straight man's wet dream to kill the guy who fucked his daughter.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | August 30, 2022 8:52 PM |
Did he end up having a gun?
by Anonymous | reply 197 | August 30, 2022 9:00 PM |
[quote]Did he end up having a gun?
Mostly irrelevant - he was warned off multiple times to leave. He continued to try to gain entry until he forced the door open - all the while with people screaming inside the house. He wasn't rushing in to save someone. He was the aggressor.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | August 30, 2022 9:35 PM |
Weird how he shuffled off and kind of laid down.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | August 30, 2022 9:39 PM |
r198 Did the dad actually tell him he had a gun in the video? That's what people are saying but I didn't hear it the first time I watched the video and I don't feel like watching this moderately handsome twink get shot to death twice.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | August 30, 2022 9:40 PM |
[quote][R198] Did the dad actually tell him he had a gun in the video?
I think that's mostly irrelevant also.
I am 100% behind gun control and don't believe the average person should be able to own or purchase handguns and certainly not automatic weapons.
However, as gun control doesn't exist in this country, breaking into another person's home, especially in that part of the country, it would be foolish to think the homeowner doesn't own a gun. Also, it seems that he dated the daughter. He knew the family. Gun ownership is not some dirty secret in that area - it's a point of pride. Do you really think he didn't know the father at least owned a gun?
by Anonymous | reply 201 | August 30, 2022 9:47 PM |
[quote] and certainly not automatic weapons.
Only rich people registering with the feds can legally have automatic weapons. Nobody else can afford $37,995.00.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 202 | August 30, 2022 10:17 PM |
And how would you know this r196???
by Anonymous | reply 204 | August 30, 2022 11:00 PM |
Yes he is heard telling I’ve got a gun but he proceeds to bust the door after.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | August 30, 2022 11:01 PM |
I shared an apartment with my brother in college. He was in Europe for a month so I was home alone, I heard someone open the door and get inside. I had no idea who was, if he was armed or their intention. I don't have guns, I even a kitchen's knife nearby, so I took a meat thermometer and I was ready to stab first and ask questions later. No time to call the cops, someone was right there. At the end it was a friend of my stupid stoner brother with the keys to water his marijuana plants, but forgot to tell me about it.
The idea someone should just wait for someone breaking in to see if they a "real threat" its ridiculous. Specially a mental ex boyfriend.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | August 30, 2022 11:18 PM |
r206 You're own story isn't as convincing for your argument as you think it is.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | August 30, 2022 11:25 PM |
[quote]If you reversed the genders and the dad killed a girlfriend banging on her ex-boyfriend's front door, I'd love to watch you all still claiming the dad was a hero. Something tells me that thread will be empty.
No dear. When girls get mad at their boyfriends, they usually throw all the guy's clothes on the driveway and then run back and forth over them with their car. They don't usually try to kill the guy. They don't have the same sense of entitlement as young guys.
Nice try, though.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | August 31, 2022 3:33 AM |
That’s pretty quick thinking, r206.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | August 31, 2022 3:36 AM |
More info below on the ex boyfriend! Sending my note about it now because as usual my message will be cut out since the link is from the daily m ail. (PS it’s a little uppity to block the daily mail when we can link porn to this site isn’t it 😂)
by Anonymous | reply 210 | August 31, 2022 4:19 AM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 211 | August 31, 2022 4:19 AM |
I’m bet you this guy was developing schizophrenia. Right at that age range and the odd behaviour.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | August 31, 2022 4:24 AM |
Was he stalking her by sending her tons of unsolicited dick pics?
by Anonymous | reply 213 | August 31, 2022 4:43 AM |
R204 Ever see the photos of the dads pointing guns at their daughter's prom date? It's a viral photo for Republicans. Also I know this because I was raised in the South.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | August 31, 2022 6:08 AM |
Dad really really wanted to shoot this guy.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | August 31, 2022 6:33 AM |
Apparently not a civilized part r214
by Anonymous | reply 216 | August 31, 2022 9:46 AM |
R215. Sure. You clearly have no idea the father warned the guy not break down the door he had a gun. Where do you fucking morons come from? You think exactly like Trumpers. You are genuinely a disgusting human being.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | August 31, 2022 2:08 PM |
And another thing asshole R215. The father was distraught by what he did to protect his daughter and now they put up their house for sale. You really are a rotter aren't you?
by Anonymous | reply 218 | August 31, 2022 2:17 PM |
Selling the house makes sense. Would you want to go in and out of a Murder Doorway every day? Greet your guests at the scene of a tragedy? Nope.
by Anonymous | reply 219 | August 31, 2022 4:28 PM |
Ohio was trash
Is trash
Will always be trash
The entire state is trash
by Anonymous | reply 220 | August 31, 2022 4:38 PM |
[quote] Selling the house makes sense. Would you want to go in and out of a Murder Doorway every day? Greet your guests at the scene of a tragedy? Nope.
Who the fuck do you think wants to BUY a house where that happened?
by Anonymous | reply 221 | August 31, 2022 4:42 PM |
[quote]Selling the house makes sense. Would you want to go in and out of a Murder Doorway every day? Greet your guests at the scene of a tragedy? Nope.
[quote]Who the fuck do you think wants to BUY a house where that happened?
Someone who needs a starter house, doesn't have a lot of money, doesn't have a personal and immediate connection to the event - or maybe doesn't even know about it. r221?
Maybe a corporation that doesn't even care?
by Anonymous | reply 222 | August 31, 2022 5:02 PM |
In some states such an incident must be disclosed. I'm not going to take the bother to see if Ohio is one of them. Honestly it wouldn't bother me as a buyer. It's not like an innocent person died.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | August 31, 2022 5:08 PM |
[quote]Honestly it wouldn't bother me as a buyer.
As a buyer, no, unless there might be fallout - it was a drug house, or the death was of sufficient notoriety as to draw looky-loos.
I'd do exactly as this family did, though. Sell immediately.
by Anonymous | reply 224 | August 31, 2022 5:14 PM |
He didn’t even die inside the house.
What’s the big deal?
Too many women on this thread, like all crime threads.
I’d tell you to go make me a sandwich, but you’d probably fuck that up too.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | August 31, 2022 6:32 PM |
R223 wouldnt bother me either, I'd snap it up if it was the kind of house I was after... which it isnt. There's a pic of it in the article R211 linked, its pretty dreary.
I'll link a pic separately
by Anonymous | reply 227 | August 31, 2022 6:59 PM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 228 | August 31, 2022 7:00 PM |
I'm not feeling sorry for a violent ex boyfriend who breaks down the door of her girlfriends home and get shot dead.
by Anonymous | reply 229 | August 31, 2022 7:02 PM |
You just hire a priest, rabbi or witch to perform a cleansing, blessing ceremony before you move in. As is always pointed out in these cases, you generally have no idea what happened in your own domicile before you moved there. Unless, of course, you are Teresa Guidice who won't live in a 'used' house.
by Anonymous | reply 230 | August 31, 2022 7:09 PM |
He was dressed like a bum!
by Anonymous | reply 232 | August 31, 2022 7:20 PM |
Anyone breaking into my house better be wearing a coat and quiet tie.
by Anonymous | reply 233 | August 31, 2022 7:58 PM |
::: clicking on the Daily Mail to see the useful photo of the dreary house :::
by Anonymous | reply 234 | August 31, 2022 8:53 PM |
I lived in this Western Ohio hellscape until 2020. The pandemic deniers finally got to me and I moved. Neither one of these kids were going anywhere in life. The kids who have the "brightest" of futures go on to work at the Honda Engine plant. The others go to work in the other small factories in the area, procreate indiscriminately, and relive their glory days at the local high school football games. They vote for Trump and his ilk and proclaim loudly and often that Shelby county is the best place on earth to raise a family, even though the last time they left the county was for their eighth grade "D.C. Trip."
by Anonymous | reply 236 | August 31, 2022 10:12 PM |
R236 You've hit the nail on the head. Most of OH, PA, WI, IN et al outside of civilized cities is JUST like that noise.
by Anonymous | reply 237 | August 31, 2022 11:55 PM |
"No dear. When girls get mad at their boyfriends, they usually throw all the guy's clothes on the driveway and then run back and forth over them with their car. They don't usually try to kill the guy."
I've known a couple of straight men who were shot by their exes, but I've never known of a woman who literally battered through a door with her bare hands, while she was being told there was someone with a gun on the other side.
Frankly, this sounds like a kill-or-be-killed situation, and I don't have a problem with the aggressive psycho being the one who left in a body bag. A lot of other people have now been spared from dealing with an aggressive psycho.
by Anonymous | reply 238 | September 1, 2022 12:44 AM |
R235, if someone shot your stalker psycho ex who'd put you in constant fear of your life, you'd be smiling too.
by Anonymous | reply 239 | September 1, 2022 12:45 AM |
r239 I don't think I would but that's only because I have a soul
by Anonymous | reply 240 | September 1, 2022 3:16 AM |
No one cares enough about you to stalk you R240
by Anonymous | reply 241 | September 1, 2022 6:31 AM |
He was cute , I'd let him cream in my hole.
by Anonymous | reply 242 | September 1, 2022 7:00 AM |
Most of the black widows at R150 look like angry lesbians and many of them killed for financial gain, not crimes of passion.
by Anonymous | reply 243 | September 1, 2022 9:31 AM |
Katherine Knight at R150's link sounds like a real prize. A true psychopath.
by Anonymous | reply 244 | September 1, 2022 9:36 AM |
Stand Your Ground makes sense if it applies to someone breaking into your home. It should not apply to being in public space and you shoot somebody because you perceived them as a "threat".
by Anonymous | reply 245 | September 1, 2022 12:07 PM |
R161 Jimmmmaaaaayyyy!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 247 | September 2, 2022 4:49 AM |
R240 You would be very very relieved and would be like thank you god. And if you say no you'd be lying.
by Anonymous | reply 248 | September 2, 2022 8:08 AM |
R136 Are you joking? There’s plenty of women who murder their ex-boyfriends, Jodi Arias stabbed hers to death in the shower and cut his throat.
Oh I forgot all women are angels!
by Anonymous | reply 249 | September 2, 2022 8:43 AM |
" plenty " is a vague lazy word.
𝑶𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒂𝒍𝒇 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒌𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝑨𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒘𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒏 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒏𝒆𝒓 𝒗𝒊𝒐𝒍𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆, 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒎𝒂𝒋𝒐𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒊𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒔 𝒅𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒂 𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒐𝒓 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎𝒆𝒓 𝒓𝒐𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒄 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒏𝒆𝒓, according to a new report released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention today.
The CDC analyzed the murders of women in 18 states from 2003 to 2014, finding a total of 10,018 deaths. Of those, 55 percent were intimate partner violence-related, meaning they occurred at the hands of a former or current partner or the partner’s family or friends. In 93 percent of those cases, the culprit was a current or former romantic partner. The report also bucks the strangers-in-dark-alleys narrative common to televised crime dramas: Strangers perpetrated just 16 percent of all female homicides, fewer than acquaintances and just slightly more than parents.
About a third of the time, the couple had argued right before the homicide took place, and about 12 percent of the deaths were associated with jealousy. The majority of the victims were under the age of 40, and 15 percent were pregnant. About 54 percent were gun deaths.
Black women were most likely to die by homicide of any kind, at 4.4 deaths per 100,000 people, followed by Native American women, Hispanics, and finally whites and Asians.
𝑫𝒂𝒕𝒂 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒓 𝒓𝒆𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒔 𝒔𝒖𝒈𝒈𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒂 𝒇𝒂𝒓 𝒔𝒎𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒓 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒎𝒆𝒏—𝒂𝒓𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 5 𝒕𝒐 7 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒏𝒕—𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒌𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒃𝒚 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒏𝒆𝒓𝒔.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 250 | September 2, 2022 8:56 AM |
Dad still really really wanted to shoot that kid.
by Anonymous | reply 251 | September 2, 2022 9:02 AM |
Oh right, R249. Let's do a comparison of the number of ex-wives who kill their ex-husbands in the U.S., versus the other way around. I have no doubt that the latter number will be waaaaayyyy bigger than the former.
by Anonymous | reply 252 | September 2, 2022 9:02 AM |
r251 Here's the fat redneck dad laughing with his evil daughter.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 253 | September 2, 2022 9:06 AM |
Should he never smile or laugh again, R253? He saved his daughter's life from a POS stalker. He's allowed to be happy about that. So is she.
by Anonymous | reply 254 | September 2, 2022 11:07 AM |
If I survived a home invasion from a crazy person, I'd be one relieved and happy bastard too.
by Anonymous | reply 255 | September 2, 2022 11:47 AM |
Was anyone heard to exclaim, “You should’ve kept your fucking mouth shut”?
by Anonymous | reply 256 | September 2, 2022 4:55 PM |
Does no one else think this was maybe suicide by someone else? I kinda thought that. Either way, it worked out tremendously.
by Anonymous | reply 257 | September 2, 2022 5:29 PM |
I'm sure he cried too R254, I think you would nervously do both.
by Anonymous | reply 258 | September 2, 2022 5:40 PM |
He was swaying slightly before he started breaking in.I bet he was drunk or high on something. He got what he asked for,but it is a shame that a young man's life is over . I dont agree that them laughing and smiling is very appropriate. Regardless of the circumstances,Id think taking a young life would bother anyone,no matter how justified.They seem detached from it. The mother is the only one who seems to have any remorse for his death.
by Anonymous | reply 259 | September 2, 2022 6:08 PM |
"Does no one else think this was maybe suicide by someone else? "
No, I think he was a psycho stalker out to kill, who was on drugs that both made him fore aggressive and which impaired his sense of self-preservation.
A psycho stalker whose brain was functioning normally would have backed off when he heard the dad threatening him with a gun, and broken into the girl's room later and strangled her. It's really better this way.
by Anonymous | reply 260 | September 2, 2022 7:46 PM |
I watched the entire video (maybe a different one, though, on YouTube).
Anyway, this guy was someone that the daughter had dated years ago. They had not been in contact for years. He had called her / texted her the night before he tried to break in and she did not respond. So, to those saying that she was playing games, not correct.
It wasn't a case of on-again / off-again. If you look at the damage to the front door (that the ex-BF made, just with his hands), it's pretty amazing. The dad did say he was going to shoot.
It looks like the case was presented to a grand jury, who decline to charge the dad.
by Anonymous | reply 261 | September 2, 2022 7:55 PM |
R261 can you post the link that shows the damage to the door?
by Anonymous | reply 262 | September 2, 2022 9:10 PM |
R251 Do you insist on being so fucking stupid in every exchange you have?
by Anonymous | reply 263 | September 2, 2022 10:28 PM |
The laughing in the New York Post video is completely understandable. Most daughters don't want to go into detail about their dating lives with their fathers. They just might let the dad know if they're serious about a guy. The chuckling has nothing to do with the dad being callous. He didn't talk about the shot young man in a demeaning way to the police officer. Once again, the Post gets it wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 264 | September 2, 2022 10:35 PM |
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